Jasper Posted December 17, 2002 Share Posted December 17, 2002 Zna4e vaprosa stoi taka trima 4oveka sme v lan i iskame da si vzemem modem ot evrocom i da imame intrnet po mrejata ta tova vuzmojno li e izobshto i ako e vuzmojno doplashtat li se nqkakvi dr. pari za ostanalite 2 4oveka ili mese4nata takasa ili si4ko ostnalo se zapazva suhtoto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamer Posted December 17, 2002 Share Posted December 17, 2002 CAPS LOCK SUX BIG TIME. Opravih imeto na topica... Spoko... na saita pishe li neshto za doplashtane? ne... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dude Posted December 18, 2002 Share Posted December 18, 2002 Ako ne iskate dopylnitelni IP- ta ne se doplashta nishto. Razstoqnieto mejdu was trqbwa da ne e nad 100 m ina4e shte se rasite za hybove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0xdeadc0de Posted December 18, 2002 Share Posted December 18, 2002 Osven ako ne se opune BNC, taka ili inache 10Mb za pre-dostatuchno i za budeshtata "diamantena" tarifa ili niakolko UTP mreji, vurzani prez combo hub s BNC tova poslednoto raboti v edna takava mreja v kichuka, niama da spomenavam imena i adresi no e beton inache kazano : razstoianieto m/u dvete nai-otdalecheni mashini e pone 400m Do Skiv: Dark Lord / MoRDoR P.S.: Mashinite sa poveche ot pokazanite na shemata Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dude Posted December 19, 2002 Share Posted December 19, 2002 Ako razstoqnieto e nad 100 metra ne moje da e UTP , sas sigurnost e STP. I ako mashinite sa powe4e, kakwa im e wrazkata s i-neta - 0.00001 bit/s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamer Posted December 19, 2002 Share Posted December 19, 2002 Ako razstoqnieto e nad 100 metra ne moje da e UTP , sas sigurnost e STP. I ako mashinite sa powe4e, kakwa im e wrazkata s i-neta - 0.00001 bit/s Смятай как се оправят повече от 7 машини с 40 connections не вярвам да са си купили второ IP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarCoder Posted December 19, 2002 Share Posted December 19, 2002 Awe vie ste pulna mafia ... sram me e ot vas ne 4e sum ot balucite(nikoi da ne mi se obijda koito s kvit kinti razpolaga nali... ) deto sa sami na modem ama kakto i da e... vpro4em moito moje da e po uderground ot vashto shoto oshte ne znam kolko maimunki sme na klona ama s sigurnost sme pove4e ot 5 a vruzkata mi kum warez.ru e mejdu 30 i 43k P.S. Awe hora dnes sum radosten neshto ograni4eniata v skorosta za free.techno-link.com sa se bugnali i tegla s 42k.Nekva Ludost ama kogat si iska puska kogat ne max 2k <_< Kakto i da e Az pak sum radosten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamer Posted December 19, 2002 Share Posted December 19, 2002 P.S. Awe hora dnes sum radosten neshto ograni4eniata v skorosta za free.techno-link.com sa se bugnali i tegla s 42k.Nekva Ludost ama kogat si iska puska kogat ne max 2k <_ src="%7B___base_url___%7D/uploads/emoticons/default_xmas.gif" alt=":)"> В минало време 1kb/s в момента. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0xdeadc0de Posted December 19, 2002 Share Posted December 19, 2002 For Dreamer: vsushtnost mashinite sa 10 i si vurvi dovolno pone za chovek, sviknal na Dial Up ot 94-ta nasam For Dude: moga da si vurja 1 km UTP, stiga da imam hub na vseki 100 m ili pone mashina s 2 LAN-ki, koito prehvurliat edna na druga (Bridged networking) Ako razgledash kartinkata, v nashata mreja gi ima i dvete, kakto i edin dosta dulug uchastuk, koito e po BNC, no spokoino i toi moje da mine na UTP, zashtoto ima dostatuchno mashini po traseto, taka che vseki otdelen uchastuk da ne stava poveche ot 100m. Tova estestveno namaliava skorostta i tia veche ne e 100Mbps, no e mnogo po-dobro ot 10Mbps. Do Skiv: Dark Lord / MoRDoR P.S.: ne govoria prazni prikazki, ako opisanata mreja ne raboteshe, niamashe kak da post-na tozi message Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkk Posted December 20, 2002 Share Posted December 20, 2002 0xdeadc0de, Ne ti go pozhelawam, no e wyzmozhno: 1. Pri edna qka burq s grymotewici da se prostite s chast (ili s cqlata) mrezha. Problema ne e tolkowa w riska ot "prqko popadenie", a ot grym w zahranwasht trafopost. Togawa trygwa dosta seriozen izrawnitelen tok, kojto kato nishto mozhe da mine za po-naprqko prez washiq LAN. 2. Za UTP - dobre, tam whoda na LAN kartata (ili na hub-a) e diferentcialen i na teoriq trqbwa da izdyrzha po-golemi naprezheniq, no pri koaksialniq kabel shirmowkata e obshta. Dostatychno e sledwashtiq now abonat na LAN-a da e na drug (ne)podhodqsht tokow kryg za da izrawni naprezhenieto prez shirmowka->Lan karta->motherboard->"edin go Gospod znae" Kato gledam hubawata ti shema naprawo si go predstawqm. 3. Ako edno BNC PC w LAN-a se precaka po (ne)syotwetniq nachin shte pusne naprezhenie okolo X volta po LAN-a. Wizhdal sym rezultata i ot trite izboeni sluchaq :ph34r: . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dude Posted December 21, 2002 Share Posted December 21, 2002 for 0xdeadcode: Do kolkoto si spomnqm gore se spomenawashe za razstoqnie mejdu 2 PC - 400 metra, a ne dyra-byra s habowe, kakto spomenah 4e shte trqbwa da se ohar4at. A kolkoto do bnc 100mbps ineresno kak, kato wsi4ki karti combo sa 10mbps. No dori i da ne bqha, trqbwa da polu4ite Nobelova nagrada za trafik po bnc > 10mbps <_< I az imah slu4ai kato kkk kogato pri edna burq ethernet portowete na polowinata lanki izgorqha w mreja ot okolo 30 PC-ta. (w gamezala a0nsu) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasper Posted December 21, 2002 Author Share Posted December 21, 2002 MERSI NA VSI4KI ZA OTGOVORITE....MNOGO IZ4ERPATELNO MN. MERSI NA DREAMER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0xdeadc0de Posted December 21, 2002 Share Posted December 21, 2002 kkk: vsiako nachinanie krie izvesten risk, ne mislish li? pri vruzka m/u dva bloka e malko trudno da se pusne kabel pod zemiata. Dude: ne si spomniam da sum spomenaval neshto za 100Mbps po BNC ako pregledash dobre shemata shte zabelejish, che 100Mbps ima samo mejdu dve mashini (do ednata stigat 10Mbps, i ima otdelna LAN-ka, koiato e 100Mbps za drugata mashina). Kolkoto do razstoianieto ... ako iskash da pusnesh neshto po-dulgo - tova e nachina Do Skiv: Dark Lord / MoRDoR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Posted December 22, 2002 Share Posted December 22, 2002 exa....tuka se zabelqzaha razni gotini mneniq (ne samo mnenie no i fakti), povecheto verni...neznam dali nqkoi ot vas e hodil na CISCO, no az sum i dostatuchno dobre obqsnihte na 0xdeadc0de za kakvo stava vupros...qvno ne ste software-ni maniacheta .... sega imam edin glupav vupros...abe zimata kato stane mnogo studeno i pochvam mnogo kofti da kopiram (verno che sum na 97m ot switch-a), a lqtoto si kopiram 6+...s interneta nqmam problem, no shto se otnasq do po-golemi failove neshto se precakva i pochti da svurshi da kopira i se precakva ! P.S. nashta mreja sushto q e udrql grum i beshe mnogo priqtno, az izpushih lan-karta i mi se izpurji slota !...sushto taka se izpurjiha i 8 ot 16 porta na stariq switch priqtno...samo deto pri nas mejdu dva bloak ima opunat kabel 60m, podsilen sus stomanena tel .....v momenta biva, snqg vali, ama na prolet pitate li me (az sum toq deto e na ediniq krai na kabela sus stomanenata tel ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0xdeadc0de Posted December 22, 2002 Share Posted December 22, 2002 basi tolkova li mi lichi, che sum programist be ??? DMEM! Kolkoto do kopiraneto prez zimata, az nabliudavam obratnia efekt - stana po-dobre. Ama to se obiasniava lesno - kolkoto poveche pada temperaturata, tolkova poveche zapochva da se doblijava do absoliutnata nula, kudeto teoretichno bi triabvalo da se nabliudava svruh provodimost. Tova e fizichnoto obiasnenie, no ima i edno chisto socialno, koeto oborva fizichnoto i e v zashtita na tvoeto tvurdenie. Zimata e po-studeno navun i poveche hora sa si vkushti i use-vat mrejata, koeto neminuemo namaliava KPD-to i Do Skiv: Dark Lord / MoRDoR P.S.: sega da ne me vzemete na seriozno ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Posted December 23, 2002 Share Posted December 23, 2002 ole mani mani...na men tova mi e predelno qsno, i na teoriq se predpolaga naistina taka da stava, ama pri men e kriva hava...ei na, sq ne moga i da upload-vam tuka ;(((....misleh che e ot mizerniq windows, s Mandrake obache sushto ne moga da kopiram kato horata !(ako sq shte pitate ot koi kopiram, server-a ni e routiran ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 24, 2002 Share Posted December 24, 2002 Az pak si misleh 4e pri absolutnata nula 4asticite prestawat da se dwijat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0xdeadc0de Posted December 25, 2002 Share Posted December 25, 2002 Guest, ami imenno ... kogato vuprosnite chastici ne se dvijat, veroiatnostta niakoi elektron da se blusne v tiah se namaliava, sledovatelno suprotivlenieto kloni kum nula. A kakto na vsichki ni e izvestno : I = U / R ot kudeto neminuemo sledva, che pri ravni naprejenia, tam kudeto imame po-malko suprotivlenie, shte imame po-goliam tok. A v nashia sluchai, tui kato suprotivlenieto kloni kum nula, to toka triabva da kloni kum bezkrainost. Imenno tozi efekt se naricha svruh provodimost, no za jalost ne e postignat dori v laboratorni uslovia. Pri niski temperaturi, se nabliudava niakakvo namaliavane na trepteneto v kristalnata reshetka na provodnika i sledovatelno namaliavane na suprotivlenieto, ot tam uvelichavane na toka, koeto e daleche ot svruh provodimostta, no vse pak e neshto. Do Skiv: Dark Lord / MoRDoR P.S.: da ne su pomislite, che sum tolkova otkachen, kolkoto izglejda, tova go sutrorihme s gadjeto v 2:30 prez nostta ... blah ... mai naistina sum otkachen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BrowseMan Posted January 2, 2003 Share Posted January 2, 2003 0xdeadc0de: OOO naprotiw swryhprowodimosta e postignata i w laboratorni uslowiq otdawna, dori i se izpolzwa w medicinata pri edin aparat zamestitel na rengena (zabrawih naimenowanieto mu sega). Temperaturata pri koqto nastypwa swryhprowodimost e -273C ili 0F. Wyprosa weche ne e w dostiganeto do tazi temperatura w neinoto zadminawane !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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