Kazinski Posted March 23, 2003 Share Posted March 23, 2003 Kolko pati sam kazval, che na tazi tema ne tryabva da se spori. Intel® sa po-naprednali ot AMD, nyama spor. Ne e vajno che nyakoy v Bulgaria si e kupil CPU na AMD s RAM DDR i veche kray, super sme. Mnogo ot tezi sa bazlivci da dadat poveche pari i za tova drankat gluposti za Intel®. Sha zema da izbiya zabite veche na nyakoy kreten. Naprimer ako iskam da si izparja nyakolko iayca bih si kupil AMD i tova e. Nikoy ne se zamislya za Intel®-a, che e po-dobar izchislitel, che e po-napred v tehnologiyata i t. n. Kakto sega chovek moje da si napravi super mashina "i850EP 533Mhz/1066Mhz - P4 3.06 Ghz & 1GB RAMBUS, naprimer. Prochetete parametrite na tezi neshta. Po-natataka se ochakva novoto pokolenie procesori. Intel® Nehalem, SBus 1200Mhz i rabotna chestota 10,2 Ghz po tehnologiya 0,065 microna. Yeahhh !!! Ako puk uspeyat da razviyat edna tehnologiya po koyato predi vreme az lichno sam rabotil, a tya e na principa na svetlinniya potok. Razbirate li? Bilioni svetlinni potoci prenasyashti informaciya. Nyama da ima nujda ot ohlajdane, prosto nyama da ima naprejenie. Principa e drug. No za tova shte vi razpravyam drug pat. Intel® sashto se zanimavat i sdrugi neshta i sa dosta dobri. A, kajete ne e li taka? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ov3rm4n Posted March 23, 2003 Share Posted March 23, 2003 Sha zema da izbiya zabite veche na nyakoy kreten. Kefi6, pi4, ebasi stila na vodene na spor... I 6to spria da raboti6 po taia napredni4ava tehnologia sas svetlinnite potoci? Eh, a moje6e da ia dovar6i6... I togava vtori pat 6te6e bulgarin da stane "ba6ta", toia pat na superCPU-to... Jalko... Deto kazal edin predi baia godinki: "BULGAAAAAAR! BULGAAAAAAR!" A za tva koi procesor bil po-hubav - tva e basi nenujnia spor... Vse edno da sednem da sporim dali BMW ili Mercedes praviat po-dorbri avtomobili... Haide osvetli ni koi sa po-dobrite avtomobili - BMW/Mercedes/Toyota??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chochosan Posted March 24, 2003 Share Posted March 24, 2003 Zasega Intel sa po-dobri, ZASEGA obache! Sled nqkolko mesetza AMD puskat purvi 64 bitov procesor za desktop PC-ta, Hammer, kato se ochakva po proizvoditelnost da sa ot 60% do dvojno po burzi ot segashnite P4... taka che shte vidim kakvo shte stane sled nqkolko mesetza togava drugi neshta shte si govorim To i pri video pazara beshe neshto takova - koj e naj dobriq Nvidia s Geforce seriqta, ama kato vleze ATI Radeon 9700 i 9800pro sega, kakvo stana : imame si nov flagman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airfan Posted March 29, 2003 Share Posted March 29, 2003 А на мен ми се струва, че Р4 си е 64-битов :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ov3rm4n Posted March 29, 2003 Share Posted March 29, 2003 ??????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Posted March 29, 2003 Share Posted March 29, 2003 Chochosan golqm si hitrqga be. Da ne misli6 4e Intel 6te spqt dotogava???? A 4e Intel sa the Best e qsno kato bql den i vsi4ki koito koito razbirat ot CPU go priznavat A i za video kartite Nvidia napraktika nikoga ne sa bili naj-dobre, obiknoveno Nvidia vadqt karti konkurentno sposobni na tezi na AMD s okolo 5-6 meseca zakysnenie, i vinagi kartite na AMD sa bili po-dobri ot kartite na Nvidia ot sy6toto pokolenie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chochosan Posted March 30, 2003 Share Posted March 30, 2003 Ranger neka poqsnim tuka AMD ne pravqt videokarti )) Airfan P4 ne e 64 bitov Ave hora vie malko novini ne chetete li bre eto vi dva saita www.anandtech.com i www.tomshardware.com Za videocartite, Nvidia ne e lider veche ot 7-8 mesetza Ranger, v momenta naj dobrata karta na pazara e ATI Radeon 9800pro, pochti vsichki benchmarks sa napulno qsni v tova otnoshenie. Za procesorite, intel ima 64 bitov processor no za razlika ot AMD toj e - 1 samo 64 bitov,koeto znachi che polzva 32 bit programi s emulaciq, koeto ujasno zabavq proizvoditelnostta na tqh, a v momenta vsichki domashni PC-ta rabotqt na 32bit programi 2 Itanium e praven samo za serverniq segment, na mnogo po niska chestota raboti, ima nqkolkostotin miliona transistora i ogromen kesh ot porqduka na 5-10mb ot vtoro nivo i suotvetno struva ludi pari. Taka che Intel prosto sa se otkazali ot tazi koncepciq pri domashnie pc-ta,ako pravqt neshto shte izkopirat Athlon-64 hammer. AMD Athlon 64 Hammer raboti po suvsem drug nachin, toj e 32bit suvmestim, koeto znachi che teoritichno shte e 2puti po burz ot normalen 32bit processor - teoritichno. No vse pak te shte sa purvite koito shte izkarat 64 bit procesor za masoviq pazar i mnogo vreme shte sa edinstvenite, shtoto Intel si produljavat s 32bitovite prescot s 800mhz shina i proizvedeni po 0.09 micronna tehnologiq... shte vidim koi e po dobur.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Posted March 30, 2003 Share Posted March 30, 2003 Sorry ne AMD , a ATI.Prosto si misleh za procesorite. I ne sym kazval 4e Nvidia sa po-dobri. Kazah 4e Nvidia vadqt konkurentno sposobni 4ipove s okolo 5-6 meseca zakysnenie sprqmo ATI. A za procesorite: Dori AMD da izvadqt 64bitov procesor, kojto da raboti kakto trqbva na PC, to pak nqma da uspeqt da navaksat razlikata v 4estotite na rabota, koeto 6te dovede otnovo do liderstvo ot strana na Intel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chochosan Posted March 30, 2003 Share Posted March 30, 2003 ami kato smeni firmite i ne te usetih za kakvo govoreshe ami to tova mu e hubavoto na AMD Athlon 64, nqma nujda da navaksva chestotite ako e dva puti po baven na chestota, pak shte e dobur kolkoto 2puti po burz ot nego Intel , megahercite dalech ne sa naj vajnoto Ranger, zashto spored teb sega Athlon imat oznacheniq 2200+ da kajem, shtoto sa ravnostojni na po burz intel. Sushtoto neshto go ima pri apple na tehnite PowerPC - edin 1Ghz powerpc na Apple e ravnostoen na 2Ghz P4 na Intel, taka che tova e oshte edno potvurjdenie. tochno zaradi 64bitovata shina na Athlon Sledge/ClawHammer, moje da se poluchi kato neshto 2x32bit logical cpu moje dori da stane neshto kato hyperthreadinga na intel, taka che imat mnoogo dobra vuzmojnost. Prosto 2te kompanii se nasochvat kum suvsem razlichni nasoki koeto e dobre. NO, kato dojdat sled 2-3 godini 64 bitovite prilojeniq, kakvo togava shte pravi intel, edno 64 bit prilojenie prosto nqma da trugne na 32bitov procesor, koeto gi izolira, vsichki shte iskat athlon 64 shtoto shte puska i dvata vida, nikoi ne iska da e orqzan... taka che nishto ne se znae.. pomisli v/u tezi neshta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Posted March 30, 2003 Share Posted March 30, 2003 Da syglasen sym s teb, no vse pak ne zabravqj 4e Intel nqma da spat do togava i 6te pusnat 64 bit Cpu.Taka 4e naistina ni6to ne znae. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chochosan Posted March 30, 2003 Share Posted March 30, 2003 Intel Veche sa pusnali 64bit cpu, i toj izobshto nqma da stupva na desktopniq pazar, pogledni v nqkoi sait pazarnata liniq na intel za budeshtite nqkolko godini, te shte proizvejdat prescott ot 3.20 do 5ghz, nqmat nikakvo namerenie da pravqt 64bit cpu za Desktop PC's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Posted March 30, 2003 Share Posted March 30, 2003 4akaj sega nqli govorim za DESKTOP PC? Kvo se pravi6 na interesen, mnogo qsno vijda6 4e pi6a za PC(personal computer) CPU, a ne za ne6to drugo. 5Ghz Intel gi planirat o6te za na4aloto na sledva6tata godina. I izob6to za6to si re6il 4e 64bit procesor na AMD 6te raboti kakto trqbva s 32 bitovi prilojeniq??? Kogato izleze 6te mojem da komentirame, a sega e samo gadaene, a kakto znae6 baba Vanga umrq. Edinstvenata istina e 4e v momenta AMD samo di6at praha na INTEL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chochosan Posted March 31, 2003 Share Posted March 31, 2003 Zashtoto v momenta ima proizvedeni mostri na AMD Operon 64 na 1.4 Ghz i na nego sa praveni benchmarkove i nadminava P4 na 2.4 Ghz, a kogato izleze shte trugva ot 1.8 Ghz nagore, taka che znam kak se durji, ti procheti neshto ve ranger vmesto da govorish ej taka ot predpolojeniq... http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/amd-ha...mily/index.html eto, cheti, puk togava spori... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Posted March 31, 2003 Share Posted March 31, 2003 It's obviously a preproduction sample that they tested, and we don't know yet whether it will be produced in bulk. Besides, it was clocked only at 1200 MHz - I hope AMD has speedier models. The Taiwanese rumors have it that there are samples clocked at 1800 MHz. By the way, AMD played one more trick with the memory for the Pentium 4. It would be interesting to estimate the effect of attaching the 800 MHz bus and Hyper Treading to Pentium 4 - I estimate it as +15 - +20 in the TPI units. In this case the Athlon 64 processor of 1800 MHz will compete against the Pentium 4 2.53 GHz instead of 3.06GHz. However, it's not that bad. And what about workstations? AMD thinks that the following suite will be the most appropriate for them (the data are probably not precise) Stranno, tuk zabelqzvam nqkolko ne6ta: 1 Intel v po4ti vsi4ki slu4ai bie AMD 2 Za6to v testa ne se izpolzva posleden model Intel CPU?? Vse pak testvat posleden model AMD CPU?? 3 Pro4eti teksta pod kartinkata. Nadqvam se da gi razbere6, vse pak ti mi poso4i stranicata. 4 Tuka stava duma za predproizvodstven test. Kak taka ti znae6 kak 6te se dyrji istinskiq procesor?? 5 Ne mi kazvaj"Ha ama pone v Risk ma6inite AMD 6te sa po-dobri" za6toto Intel odavna stypiha na tazi teritoriq pri tova s ne RISK procesor. M/u drugoto RISK procesori sa procesori s namalen broj instrukcii. Hajde sys zdrave i ne se opitvaj da me ubejdava6 v gluposti :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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